Iron Meteorites | largest meteorites but no craters
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Iron meteorites - largest meteorites but no craters

Iron meteorites are the largest meteorites found on earth. Strangely the largest meteorites discovered on earth have never been found with a crater.

The standard answers and theories for why there are no craters around these iron meteorites involve them all having landed on ice sheets during ice ages or having been washed into place.

The chance of this happening to all of the largest meteorites found are very slim to impossible. Maybe they are not glacial erratic meteorites, maybe they are formed where they are found.

And how or does this link to Glacial erratic rocks like the Merton Stone?


Hoba West meteorite - flat sided, no crater?

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The largest iron meteorite found on Earth, the largest piece of iron found on Earth. Amazingly it is flat on both sides and no crater was found around it.

It is inferred that the Earth's atmosphere slowed the object down to the point that it fell to the surface at terminal velocity, thereby remaining intact and causing little excavation. The meteorite is unusual in that it is flat on both major surfaces, possibly causing it to have skipped across the top of the atmosphere in the way a flat stone skips on water. - Hoba meteorite (Hoba West) - Wiki

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The Hoba West meteorite was discovered just below the surface.

The old report "Radioactive Isotopes in Hoba West and Other Iron Meteorites" carried out by the Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory has many interesting parts and a detailed chemical analysis. A few of these are shown below.

In both hoba and sikhote-alin the Ni59, which is a neutron-produced isotope, is higher than would be expected from the Cl36 content. This indicates that solar flares contributed to the neutron-produced isotopes in these iron meteorites.

...A 30 cm thick layer of "iron shale", a weathering product, surrounds the sides and bottom of the meteorite and probably once covered the top.

The terrestrial age of Hoba is a useful tool in the interpretation of the geologic and climatic history of the region. Postdating the fall of Hoba is a limestone deposit that has been laid over the surrounding granite. The 30cm thick layer of unusual iron shale on the sides and bottom of Hoba is of a related interest.

The preterrestrial size of Hoba is important because Hoba is the largest known meteorite and probably did not fragment in its atmospheric passage. Hoba contains no cracks nor planes of weakness, and, since it is a high-nickel ataxite, it is exceedingly uniform and does not easily fragment nor erode.

...Geological and climatic changes in the region in which Hoba is found can be deduced from the geological conditions in which the meteorite lies. The terrestrial age of Hoba requires these geological and climatic changes to be of recent origin. Hoba does not lie in a crater, and there is no geological evidence of impact. Since its fall, it has been covered by a layer of calcareous tuffa or surface limestone that overlies granite (Spencer 1932). This probably formed by the evapouration of stagnant surface water bearing calcium carbonate from the nearby Otavi dolomite. The region today is arid, with an annual rainfall of only 20 to 30 inches and little runoff. Thus, it seems probable that a period of moister climate occurred in the region during the last 80,000 years, probably at the time of the last pluvial and glacial period in the Northern Hemisphere.
The oxidation crust or "iron shale" that covers the bottom and sides of Hoba contains Fe, Ni and Co in the same proportions as does the metal (Spencer 1932), indicating that the oxidation occurred with no leaching. The oxidation probably took place rapidly during the moist period in which the surface limestone formed.

FE60 in Hoba
Because Co60 has a half-life of only 5.27 years, its presence would not be expected in a meteorite such as Hoba West, except as the daughter of FE60 or as the product of the capture of cosmic-ray neutrons by Co59 in the meteorite at the earth's surface. The Co60 from meteorite Fe60 has been measured only once, by Goel and Honda (1965); compared with their value, the Co60 activity in Hoba is high. Calculation using the methods and data of Montgomery and Tobey (1949), with consideration of resonance neutron capture, indicate that most or perhaps all the Co60 found in Hoba arises from the capture of cosmic-ray neutrons in meteoritic cobalt at the earth's surface. Radioactive Isotopes in Hoba West and Other Iron Meteorites (pdf)

The iron shale with no signs of leaching, no cracks in the Hoba West meteorite, the calcareous tuffa (surface limestone), half lifes of chemicals, no evidence of impact and the fact that it and other iron meteorites are found on or just below the surface seem to indicate that they are found where they are formed.

The fact that the iron shale and the meteorite contain the same proportions of Fe, Ni and Co could mean they were formed at the same time by the same process.

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Some aspects of the nature of the Hoba meteorite are truely puzzling. On the one hand, the meteorite belongs, despite its huge size, to a very rare class of meteorites and is defined as nickel - rich ataxite. Ataxites consists almost entirely out a dense packing of the meteorite mineral taenite and do not display the otherwise typical 'Widmannstaettensche Figuren' on acid edging. Another enigma is the absence of any crater like structure. The meteorite was covered by a thin crust of calcrete at the time of discovery, but upon excavation no signs of the otherwise very typical temperature & pressure induced shock phenomenae, nor any buried remains of a crater structure were reported.
During excavation an odd "Iron shale" = an odd magnetic (!) and limonite rich laminated sediment was observed in close proximity to the meteorite mass, which most probably results from long time weathering.

All this support the theory, that the meteorite with its unusual form hit the earth - estimated 80.000 B.C. ago - at an very low angle, jumping like a stone on water from place to place until it reached its present position. - Africa : Namibia : Largest known iron meteorite on Farm Hoba West

The gEUlogy of the area shows some interesting possible Electric Universe geology. Two very deep sunken lakes that may be related to the Martian Skylights are found close by, Lake Otjikoto and Lake Guinas.

There was also a large natural hill of copper and the famous and mysterious Tsumeb mineralised pipe. The Tsumeb pipe goes vertically through the Precambrian Otavi and it has many minerals including gold, arsenic, lead, silver, zinc etc. It has over 200 minerals and some are only found here. Was the Tsumeb mineral pipe created at the same time as the Hoba West meteorite or does it show that the area is an attractive area to the Electric Universe?


The Cape York Meteorites

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The Cape York Meteorites are separate lumps of iron but have been grouped together as fragments of the same iron meteorite as they are found around the same location. The iron pieces known as the Women and the Dog were found about 25 meters from each other on the mainland and Ahnighito was found on an island. They were found above the ground and with no visible crater around them, even for the largest one called Ahnighito.

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The Women was used by the local Inuits as a source for iron. No hard rocks are found in the area so they had to bring in hammerstones made of basalt and over 10,000 were found around the iron meteorite.

Locals tell a story that the meteorites were once a sewing woman and her dog who were cast from heaven by an evil spirit. Ahnighito (the island) was the tent that sheltered them.


Willamette (Tomanowos) Meteorite

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Another massive iron meteorite that slammed into the earth and left no crater, yet is the largest meteorite in the USA.

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Known as "Tomanowos" to the Clackamas, who lived in the Willamette Valley before the arrival of European settlers, the Meteorite is revered by the Clackamas and their descendants. According to the tradition of the Clackamas, Tomanowos has healed and empowered people in the Willamette Valley since the beginning of time. The Clackamas believe that Tomanowos came to the valley as a representative of the Sky People and that a union occurred between the sky, earth, and water when it rested in the ground and collected rainwater in its basins. The rainwater served as a powerful purifying, cleansing, and healing source for the Clackamas and their neighbors. Tribal hunters, seeking power, dipped their arrowheads in the water collected in the Meteorite's crevices. - Willamette Meteorite agreement

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The strange shapes in the Willamette (Tomanowos) Meteorite is said to be due to weathering. Strange that a solid piece of iron, said to be part of a planets core, has survived the destruction of a planet, slammed into earth leaving no crater, had the Inuits smashing it for iron and yet weather has created the amazing shapes.


Mundrabilla meteorites, Australia and meteorite irons

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The iron Mundrabilla meteorites found around the Nullarbor Plain in Western Australia may have all been found above or just below the surface. There are a number of large Mundrabilla meteorites but there are also Mundrabilla meteorite irons.

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Mundrabilla meteorite irons are strange little pieces of iron, twisted into odd shapes.

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Meteorite irons include "thumb prints" and natural holes. They are not just found on Mundrabilla meteorites, other meteorite areas have meteorite irons around them also. This site, meteorite-martin .de, mentions other meteorite areas with meteorite irons. Are metoerite irons from "proper" meteorites or are they created by an electrical event in an Electrical Universe?


Glacial erratic rocks and Glacial erratic Meteorites?

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Glacial erratic rocks are rocks that do not belong geologically to the area they are found. Geology explains this by saying they were pushed or moved there by glaciers or massive flood waters. Perhaps they were formed where they were found? In an Electric Universe local minerals and material can be changed into other minerals and shapes, that is what has happened to metamorphic rocks. Are these large and unique iron meteorites created where they were found? Are they glacial erratic meteorites or are they Electric Universe gEUlogy, created where they are found?

Strange glacial erratic rocks include the Merton Stone. The actual geological properties of the Merton Stone are disputed but what is not is that it is found in a large depression, a pit of Marl. Marl is a calcium carbonate or mud rich with lime. The Hoba West meteorite has limestone and calcium carbonate on and around it.

If all the largest iron rich meteorites are found on or just below the surface and with no crater does this prove they are not of extra terrestrial origin but were formed where they are found?

Another option is that they were transported into place by an Electric Universe event but placed down where they were found. That is why there are no craters.


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